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		<title>By: Sean Hogan</title>
		<link>http://saltandlighttv.org/blog/?p=5006&#038;cpage=1#comment-5143</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Hogan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 17:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Steven G.  You&#039;ve hit the nail on the head.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Steven G.  You&#8217;ve hit the nail on the head.</p>
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		<title>By: Kris Dmytrenko</title>
		<link>http://saltandlighttv.org/blog/?p=5006&#038;cpage=1#comment-4785</link>
		<dc:creator>Kris Dmytrenko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Steven,

If I may address this personally:

You seem to be suggesting that some of the bishops are in opposition to the truth of the Gospel. This does not correspond to my understanding of the seriousness with which they are continuing to examine the issue. If anything, the statements by Archbishop Collins and Archbishop Miller further confirm that the report was not intended to end discussion on Development and Peace. It was always understood that this would be a subject for discussion at the October plenary meeting of all the Canadian bishops. Likewise, we will continue to be covering the individual and collective responses of the bishops, which may include a more comprehensive look at the topic in a more appropriate medium than Zoom or the blog.

While we do allow some comments, the S+L blog was never intended as a forum for debate, much less for casting aspersions on anyone&#039;s character or intentions. I regret that you feel singled out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Steven,</p>
<p>If I may address this personally:</p>
<p>You seem to be suggesting that some of the bishops are in opposition to the truth of the Gospel. This does not correspond to my understanding of the seriousness with which they are continuing to examine the issue. If anything, the statements by Archbishop Collins and Archbishop Miller further confirm that the report was not intended to end discussion on Development and Peace. It was always understood that this would be a subject for discussion at the October plenary meeting of all the Canadian bishops. Likewise, we will continue to be covering the individual and collective responses of the bishops, which may include a more comprehensive look at the topic in a more appropriate medium than Zoom or the blog.</p>
<p>While we do allow some comments, the S+L blog was never intended as a forum for debate, much less for casting aspersions on anyone&#8217;s character or intentions. I regret that you feel singled out.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With respect, Kris, I have read the report.  It does not address the evidence.  It simply denies an allegation that nobody made (i.e. that D&amp;P directly supports abortion activities).  But it fails to address the real problem.

Comments this week by Archbishop Collins of Toronto confirm what pro-life groups have been saying all along:

1.  D&amp;P needs a profound reform
2.  D&amp;P should not be partnering with groups that oppose Church teaching
3.  D&amp;P should work in partnership with local bishops.

I didn&#039;t make that up.  It comes from the Archbishop of Toronto.  Read here: http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2009_docs/dpstatementjuly2309.pdf

I find it disingenuous of you to stifle legitimate discussion on this topic by invoking a misplaced deference to episcopal authority (notice how all comments stopped after you brought down the hammer?).  Yes, we must respect our bishops, but never at the expense of the Truth of the Gospel.  

This is not libel towards our bishops.  True charity involves fraternal correction and avoidance of scandal.  Turning a blind eye to sin is not true Christianity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With respect, Kris, I have read the report.  It does not address the evidence.  It simply denies an allegation that nobody made (i.e. that D&amp;P directly supports abortion activities).  But it fails to address the real problem.</p>
<p>Comments this week by Archbishop Collins of Toronto confirm what pro-life groups have been saying all along:</p>
<p>1.  D&amp;P needs a profound reform<br />
2.  D&amp;P should not be partnering with groups that oppose Church teaching<br />
3.  D&amp;P should work in partnership with local bishops.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t make that up.  It comes from the Archbishop of Toronto.  Read here: <a href="http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2009_docs/dpstatementjuly2309.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2009_docs/dpstatementjuly2309.pdf</a></p>
<p>I find it disingenuous of you to stifle legitimate discussion on this topic by invoking a misplaced deference to episcopal authority (notice how all comments stopped after you brought down the hammer?).  Yes, we must respect our bishops, but never at the expense of the Truth of the Gospel.  </p>
<p>This is not libel towards our bishops.  True charity involves fraternal correction and avoidance of scandal.  Turning a blind eye to sin is not true Christianity.</p>
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		<title>By: Kris Dmytrenko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kris Dmytrenko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We direct our readers to two articles in which the Archbishop Weisgerber commented more fully: http://www.zenit.org/article-26253?l=english and http://www.catholicregister.org/content/view/3227/849/

In these, the Archbishop addresses the question of D&amp;P funding of partner groups that lobby for abortion legalization, saying that tighter protocols will be in effect and that the signing of a particular UN declaration was inappropriate. He also says that the CCCB is in the process of addressing the complaint from the Peruvian bishops&#039; conference.

It must be reiterated that that the Archbishop has revealed only some of the CCCB report, as he is entitled to do as the CCCB President. It would be premature to speculate on how the report will address allegations pertaining to D&amp;P partners in other countries. It is also too soon to comment on the degree to which the CCCB will alter D&amp;P protocols.

And, most certainly, it is uncharitable to question the integrity and credibility of the bishops before their report is released or even approved by the assembly. (The report is in their hands to consider and discuss until the CCCB plenary meeting in October, at which point it will be voted upon.) While we welcome discussion on the S+L blog, we have editorial license to not approve comments that unfairly--and, sometimes, libellously--malign our Catholic leadership.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We direct our readers to two articles in which the Archbishop Weisgerber commented more fully: <a href="http://www.zenit.org/article-26253?l=english" rel="nofollow">http://www.zenit.org/article-26253?l=english</a> and <a href="http://www.catholicregister.org/content/view/3227/849/" rel="nofollow">http://www.catholicregister.org/content/view/3227/849/</a></p>
<p>In these, the Archbishop addresses the question of D&#038;P funding of partner groups that lobby for abortion legalization, saying that tighter protocols will be in effect and that the signing of a particular UN declaration was inappropriate. He also says that the CCCB is in the process of addressing the complaint from the Peruvian bishops&#8217; conference.</p>
<p>It must be reiterated that that the Archbishop has revealed only some of the CCCB report, as he is entitled to do as the CCCB President. It would be premature to speculate on how the report will address allegations pertaining to D&#038;P partners in other countries. It is also too soon to comment on the degree to which the CCCB will alter D&#038;P protocols.</p>
<p>And, most certainly, it is uncharitable to question the integrity and credibility of the bishops before their report is released or even approved by the assembly. (The report is in their hands to consider and discuss until the CCCB plenary meeting in October, at which point it will be voted upon.) While we welcome discussion on the S+L blog, we have editorial license to not approve comments that unfairly&#8211;and, sometimes, libellously&#8211;malign our Catholic leadership.</p>
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		<link>http://saltandlighttv.org/blog/?p=5006&#038;cpage=1#comment-4304</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We remind those who wish to comment on this blog -- and any of our entries -- to please keep comments civil.  Thank you.</description>
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		<title>By: James Ouellet</title>
		<link>http://saltandlighttv.org/blog/?p=5006&#038;cpage=1#comment-4303</link>
		<dc:creator>James Ouellet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 01:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why did the CCCB not ask the Conference of Catholic bishops of Mexico to investigate these groups and report their findings to their Canadian colleagues? Why were they kept out of the process? They would certainly have been more attuned to the Mexican situation than a group of outsiders. Given the fact that LifeSiteNews have provided documented evidence of these groups&#039; involvement in the promotion of abortion, the CCCB have no choice but to addresss every piece of &quot;evidence&quot; and prove them wrong, otherwise the CREDIBILITY of the bishops&#039; organization, not just its president, will be greatly diminished in the eyes of the Catholic laity of this country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why did the CCCB not ask the Conference of Catholic bishops of Mexico to investigate these groups and report their findings to their Canadian colleagues? Why were they kept out of the process? They would certainly have been more attuned to the Mexican situation than a group of outsiders. Given the fact that LifeSiteNews have provided documented evidence of these groups&#8217; involvement in the promotion of abortion, the CCCB have no choice but to addresss every piece of &#8220;evidence&#8221; and prove them wrong, otherwise the CREDIBILITY of the bishops&#8217; organization, not just its president, will be greatly diminished in the eyes of the Catholic laity of this country.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Hogan</title>
		<link>http://saltandlighttv.org/blog/?p=5006&#038;cpage=1#comment-4289</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Hogan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s an interesting quote from D &amp; P&#039;s website about where they give money.  Notice that they state that they don&#039;t directly give money to support condoms but they will still send money to a group that has elements of Catholic teaching.  This does prove that they give money to organizations that support condom distribution, a clear violation of our Catholic teaching.  It is from June 2003.  

Truth goes hand in hand with openness, respect and tolerance of differences. These are values that are fundamental to any honest dialogue. Development and Peace respects and follows the teaching of the Catholic Church. In its relationships with other organisations, with other cultures and faith traditions, it does not silence its own faith and position. CCODP does not fund programs specifically designed to distribute condoms, nor does it fund elements of broader programs which involve condom distribution. In these latter cases CCODP will, however, continue to support the remaining components of broad programs, providing that they are consistent with CCODP’s approach to development work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s an interesting quote from D &amp; P&#8217;s website about where they give money.  Notice that they state that they don&#8217;t directly give money to support condoms but they will still send money to a group that has elements of Catholic teaching.  This does prove that they give money to organizations that support condom distribution, a clear violation of our Catholic teaching.  It is from June 2003.  </p>
<p>Truth goes hand in hand with openness, respect and tolerance of differences. These are values that are fundamental to any honest dialogue. Development and Peace respects and follows the teaching of the Catholic Church. In its relationships with other organisations, with other cultures and faith traditions, it does not silence its own faith and position. CCODP does not fund programs specifically designed to distribute condoms, nor does it fund elements of broader programs which involve condom distribution. In these latter cases CCODP will, however, continue to support the remaining components of broad programs, providing that they are consistent with CCODP’s approach to development work.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh C</title>
		<link>http://saltandlighttv.org/blog/?p=5006&#038;cpage=1#comment-4282</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 19:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t the allegation actually that Development and Peace funded organizations that promote abortion (in Mexico, South America, Africa, and elsewhere) and lobby for greater access to abortion? To me this would fall under the term &quot;abortion related activities&quot;.  

It would have also been nice if he addressed the Peruvian bishops&#039; letter asking Canadian bishops to stop supporting organizations in Peru working against the Church and her moral and social teaching.      

I think we have to be a little dissatisfied with the advice to &quot;trust bishops more than websites&quot; (paraphrase).  I say this because other Canadian bishops (like Archbishop Collins) have voiced concerns as a result of photographic, audio, and print evidence put forth by the organizations themselves, published and easily found on the web.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t the allegation actually that Development and Peace funded organizations that promote abortion (in Mexico, South America, Africa, and elsewhere) and lobby for greater access to abortion? To me this would fall under the term &#8220;abortion related activities&#8221;.  </p>
<p>It would have also been nice if he addressed the Peruvian bishops&#8217; letter asking Canadian bishops to stop supporting organizations in Peru working against the Church and her moral and social teaching.      </p>
<p>I think we have to be a little dissatisfied with the advice to &#8220;trust bishops more than websites&#8221; (paraphrase).  I say this because other Canadian bishops (like Archbishop Collins) have voiced concerns as a result of photographic, audio, and print evidence put forth by the organizations themselves, published and easily found on the web.</p>
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